ESiteHoster
ESiteHoster•17mo ago

White Labeling

How to my instance White Label self hosted comunity free edition
11 Replies
rubenf
rubenf•17mo ago
well you cannot, that would be against our will and our license but you can subscribe for a license to do so
tersercoder
tersercoder•17mo ago
It depends what is considered whitelabel, but you can offer it as long as you include access to the modified source and retain the copyrights and licenses of the source. Removing all windmill logo's etc is not something that's not allowed, as long as you link to the source code of those changes.
rubenf
rubenf•17mo ago
The full service would have to be open-source, not just the removal of our logos, we consider it to be a modification of the software to be wrapped into an external service that serves external users.
tersercoder
tersercoder•17mo ago
yes, correct
rubenf
rubenf•17mo ago
anyway just know that we don't want to compete commercially with our own product and will be zealous in the application of the license if you were to serve windmill to external users without an agreement with us. If you are non-commercial, we will tolerate it.
tersercoder
tersercoder•17mo ago
you should be 🙂 it has a license and the license should be adhered to; if people don't like it, then build your own or buy yours. simple 🙂 it's just that the agpl is interpreted a lot and abused by both sides (the company + users) *interpreted wrong
rubenf
rubenf•17mo ago
The question was pretty much asking for our blessing, I am explicitely saying no and that we will make our best to prevent it. This kind of abuse render this kind of project less viable and hurt the whole open-source ecosystem. I do not want to have to make windmill open-core because of abusers.
tersercoder
tersercoder•17mo ago
right and that's good; so it should indeed be clear what users can and cannot do as the agpl is one of least well understood ones (the weirdest properties are attributed to it on reddit and such, which makes it highly unpopular for company use) . and open core is crap , so hope it doesn't happen!
rubenf
rubenf•17mo ago
To be honest, that it is unpopular for comapny use is a feature, if you use windmill at your company at sufficiently large scale that you might worry about AGPL implications. we rather you buy our cheap commercial license than lawyers to tell you that you're in a gray area. but to be clear, it's fine to use windmill at your company and it's completely valid to stick to the community/open-source edition for internal uses forever.
ESiteHoster
ESiteHosterOP•17mo ago
for community/open-source edition for internal uses how we change the windmill logo?
rubenf
rubenf•17mo ago
You can't without an enterprise edition, that's akin to removing proper attribution. And any other changes you would make to the software, you would need to open source. I'm locking these kind of discussions, they're counter productive. It's a free and open source product, but we're not sympathetic to the cause of abusing it.