Very good point, which I also agree with. Only thing I'd say is that the current apps in the hub are

Very good point, which I also agree with. Only thing I'd say is that the current apps in the hub are quite barebones and specialized as to not be useful for 90+% of viewers. I'll think some more about how it could be approached

Mmetapontum Blogs, Scheduling meetings / Calendly alternative, Documentation, Roadmaps,

Thawab•8/23/24, 5:41 AM

Windmill works on a lower level. So you can build these apps.

Mmetapontum Very good point, which I also agree with. Only thing I'd say is that the current...

Thawab•8/23/24, 5:43 AM

True about the hub, but i think etl tools can do that job. would love if its from windmill by default for better dx.

TThawab True about the hub, but i think etl tools can do that job. would love if its fro...

metapontumOP•8/23/24, 7:22 AM

Yeah. The angle I'm coming at this from is: Anyone can upload apps, but a hub is a network requiring careful cultivation. Left to evolve on its own, it fragments or fills with non-useful content, leading to declining use. Which is a self-reinforcing feedback loop. Initial conditions are crucial. I’ve dealt with this before—Jono Bacon's People Powered is the best book I've seen in that area. It’s easy to settle for “good enough” & move on, since feature value is direct and immediate, while a well-curated hub's value only emerges over time making it hard to predict & easy to underestimate.

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metapontumOP•8/23/24, 7:52 AM

These arent 1:1, but there is a long pattern of 'seeding' being used to catalyze networks. Some that I found interesting:

itsupport505•8/23/24, 11:56 AM

cant get in to the cloud, what's up with that

itsupport505•8/23/24, 11:56 AM

cloudfront kicking me out, seems like doenst like vpn

rubenf•8/23/24, 12:12 PM

@itsupport505 outside of your vpn you have no issue?

itsupport505•8/23/24, 12:12 PM

no its good, everything works fine with out vpn

itsupport505•8/23/24, 12:13 PM

just strange thing that vpn was blocked, im usually on vpn on the go

rubenf•8/23/24, 12:13 PM

we have nothing special against it, but we do use cloudfront

itsupport505•8/23/24, 12:23 PM

commercial vpn, nordvpn, could be dirty nodes

rubenf•8/23/24, 3:32 PM

We will fix it

cdodev•8/24/24, 2:35 PM

So - I've run into a little problem, and I'm not sure if it's user error.

I have a duckdb script which was working fine, but I want to change it to be able to cache the database file locally. I thought the way to do that would be with a dedicated worker, but now the script isn't picking up the secrets correctly any more:

api_key=openai_config['api_key'],
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^

api_key=openai_config['api_key'],
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^

print(embeddings_open_ai)

print(embeddings_open_ai)

gives:

$res:u/ben/open_ai_embeddings

$res:u/ben/open_ai_embeddings

(before that would print out the object contents

Have I done something wrong, or am I missunderstanding the intent here?

rubenf•8/24/24, 2:52 PM

There might be a bug. If you can send me a clear reproduction, we will investigate on monday

metapontumOP•8/25/24, 7:32 AM

Would be nice if there was a channel for tossing interesting links / inspo / resources.

Saw this today, might be useful for brainstorming future app editor experience
https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1f0e2zs/i_made_my_drag_and_drop_website_builder_much_more/

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rubenf•8/25/24, 8:23 AM

@metapontum I think general will work until we have too many of those

rubenf•8/25/24, 8:24 AM

and then we will create dedicated channel

metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:17 PM

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41224689

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metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:17 PM

Any plans of making use of this

metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:18 PM

Im thinking itd be good for the hub when displaying apps

metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:18 PM

So it could essentially seed it with example data

metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:26 PM

Assuming it could be used for more than that though, https://postgres.new/ shows how utterly easy it can be to set up a whole db just by saying a few words about what it should be

metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:29 PM

query and iteratively find out info, restructure database, in a sandbox environment that can be merged into a draft once it's ironed out

Mmetapontum Assuming it could be used for more than that though, https://postgres.new/ shows...

metapontumOP•8/26/24, 5:34 PM

fr3fou•8/26/24, 9:47 PM

in the current worker/job queue architecture, do the workers themselves read and write about their execution status – e.g. if the windmill-app process is dying, and the worker picks up a job before it dies, would it be able to execute it (as well as write the necessary results to postgres)?

rubenf•8/26/24, 9:50 PM

yes the workers update their state in the db, windmill-app just push new jobs if they've been added through the API

NY2711•8/26/24, 10:43 PM

Is there a way we can setup Oauth with AWS EKS self hosted? It failing with unknown URI

rubenf•8/26/24, 10:48 PM

OAuth and the method of hosting are unrelated

NY2711•8/26/24, 10:51 PM

rubenf•8/26/24, 10:52 PM

You can give ample details on your setup on #help and someone may be able to help given the info

invakid404•8/27/24, 8:21 AM

is there a premade Grafana dashboard for the Windmill Prometheus metrics or am I supposed to make one myself?

rubenf•8/27/24, 9:04 AM

@invakid404 at the moment not but we will work on providing one

fr3fou•8/27/24, 9:08 AM

yeah +1, would love to see one

zphr•8/27/24, 8:52 PM

anyone can share their experience with sftp on windmill other than going python/bash route? looks like bun doesn't support the big sftp libraries

Zzphr anyone can share their experience with sftp on windmill other than going python/...

Tiago Serafim•8/28/24, 1:45 PM

I do not have such experience, but I'm curious: why not use Python?

pixeleet•8/28/24, 3:45 PM

I've moved a windmill instance from one cloud to another, all good, after setting up the roles correctly all is humming along, even logged me in with my existing token, yay, I see everything.
But, none of the users see anything anymore, all the permisisons and groups seems to be there, any ideas why this could be?

rubenf•8/28/24, 3:47 PM

not using the same usernames ?

pixeleet•8/28/24, 3:57 PM

everything is exactly the same, users, passwords, I dumped the other pg and restored it into the new postgres

pixeleet•8/28/24, 3:58 PM

Also for me everything works fine

it's just that none of the scripts/flows/apps are visible to users, not even if I create a new app and share that, wonder what I missed

TTiago Serafim I do not have such experience, but I'm curious: why not use Python?

zphr•8/28/24, 6:46 PM

no reason, rest of the flow is in js so wanted to keep consistent. ended up just using python after deno/bunjs were a bust

zphr•8/28/24, 6:54 PM

although, running locally for deno seems to work, it might just be a out-of-date deno on windmill
(local 1.45.1 = no go, local 1.46.1 = go)