we would love to offer the debugger experience on our webide but it would require a separate service

we would love to offer the debugger experience on our webide but it would require a separate service and would not scale gracefully with users, but if it worked in-browser that changes everything

Rrubenf we would love to offer the debugger experience on our webide but it would requir...

metapontum•8/20/24, 2:20 PM

yeup. literal paradigm shift moment. this stood out recently, database + node + code editor + reactive browser debugger

metapontum•8/20/24, 2:20 PM

https://allyoucaneat.robeert.com/

metapontum•8/20/24, 2:20 PM

in a html file

rubenfOP•8/20/24, 2:22 PM

very cool. Yes, webcontainer and wasm is the future imho

rubenfOP•8/20/24, 2:36 PM

We're SOC 2 Type II and have gone through a pentest with independent auditors (only minor findings, all resolved), will go through another one in the next few months. You can report them publicly on the github security page, and if ever the finding very major we would benefit from a few days of being tipped early so we can alert our customers first.

Mmetapontum https://allyoucaneat.robeert.com/

rubenfOP•8/20/24, 2:37 PM

do you know who is this ?

Rrubenf do you know who is this ?

metapontum•8/20/24, 2:39 PM

already tracked him down

https://github.com/RabbitHols

though the repo for it only contains compiled js

GitHub

RabbitHols - Overview

Hi. RabbitHols has 8 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

rubenfOP•8/20/24, 2:41 PM

he doesn't sound like he wants a job, but if he did, we have one for him

rubenfOP•8/21/24, 7:18 AM

yes

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 6:27 AM

@ch you're in luck, rust support is coming soon

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 9:32 AM

Hi @natalyK , could you send us a minimal app that exposes this behavior please

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 10:30 AM

yeah, we should make in a reserved id

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 10:30 AM

quite some app you got there if you went all the way to

in

in

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 10:30 AM

unless that's a name you chose yourself

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 10:30 AM

we will fix, thanks for the report

nsadeh•8/22/24, 2:12 PM

What's the hashing algorithm used for the password? For some reason my password (which is stored in 1Password and has never been changed) stopped working today (a mystery unto its own). I am trying to change the password manually in Postgres but I need the correct algorithm to hash + salt it, otherwise I am locked out of my Windmill

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 2:13 PM

the password didn't change by itself in windmill but you can use this

$argon2id$v=19$m=19456,t=2,p=1$ijpVAMhqjACxDmbi0tosJw$fvjnvLMvh4QH31ND+8dTf9+01GSVcmwCdXi1XJEisMk

$argon2id$v=19$m=19456,t=2,p=1$ijpVAMhqjACxDmbi0tosJw$fvjnvLMvh4QH31ND+8dTf9+01GSVcmwCdXi1XJEisMk

for changeme

Rrubenf the password didn't change by itself in windmill but you can use this `$argon2id...

nsadeh•8/22/24, 2:14 PM

Yea I am sure it didn't. Thanks! Is there a way to change the password after that? My instance is available on the internet. It doesn't have sensitive data but I don't want anybody logging in and running my pipelines

rubenfOP•8/22/24, 2:15 PM

yes in your account settings

metapontum•8/23/24, 4:44 AM

Been thinking a bit how blogs are sorta an essential feature of growing startups nowadays, might make sense to streamline this within windmill

metapontum•8/23/24, 4:46 AM

I imagine it can be possible within an app, without modifying source code, but stuff like WYSIWYG editor might be a bit tricky. I think that it'd be a really good example app that provides immediate value while also being straightforward to understand and reverse engineer.

metapontum•8/23/24, 5:14 AM

Stuff like blogs seem trivial but will draw the attention of people who are getting started building a business. Literally like "Wow if I use this, we don't have to worry about hooking up a blogging app". Slowly building out an arsenal of apps which provide instant value in annoying areas all businesses need to figure out at some point.

metapontum•8/23/24, 5:17 AM

Blogs, Scheduling meetings / Calendly alternative, Documentation, Roadmaps,

Alper•8/23/24, 5:19 AM

Making Windmill more attractive is a noble goal, but I have the feeling that a specialized tool will give more value than an app that tries to solve everything. From my perspective, the Windmill team is doing a great job at going deep to the core of the Orchestration UX challenges and solving them with unique grace. There is probably still so much more on their roadmap that building new tools could be a distraction and bad for the project.

AAlper Making Windmill more attractive is a noble goal, but I have the feeling that a s...

metapontum•8/23/24, 5:41 AM

Very good point, which I also agree with. Only thing I'd say is that the current apps in the hub are quite barebones and specialized as to not be useful for 90+% of viewers. I'll think some more about how it could be approached

Mmetapontum Blogs, Scheduling meetings / Calendly alternative, Documentation, Roadmaps,

Thawab•8/23/24, 5:41 AM

Windmill works on a lower level. So you can build these apps.

Mmetapontum Very good point, which I also agree with. Only thing I'd say is that the current...

Thawab•8/23/24, 5:43 AM

True about the hub, but i think etl tools can do that job. would love if its from windmill by default for better dx.

TThawab True about the hub, but i think etl tools can do that job. would love if its fro...

metapontum•8/23/24, 7:22 AM

Yeah. The angle I'm coming at this from is: Anyone can upload apps, but a hub is a network requiring careful cultivation. Left to evolve on its own, it fragments or fills with non-useful content, leading to declining use. Which is a self-reinforcing feedback loop. Initial conditions are crucial. I’ve dealt with this before—Jono Bacon's People Powered is the best book I've seen in that area. It’s easy to settle for “good enough” & move on, since feature value is direct and immediate, while a well-curated hub's value only emerges over time making it hard to predict & easy to underestimate.

Goodreads

People Powered: How Communities Can Supercharge Your Bu…

What if you discovered a blueprint that could grow your…

metapontum•8/23/24, 7:52 AM

These arent 1:1, but there is a long pattern of 'seeding' being used to catalyze networks. Some that I found interesting:

itsupport505•8/23/24, 11:56 AM

cant get in to the cloud, what's up with that

itsupport505•8/23/24, 11:56 AM

cloudfront kicking me out, seems like doenst like vpn

rubenfOP•8/23/24, 12:12 PM

@itsupport505 outside of your vpn you have no issue?

itsupport505•8/23/24, 12:12 PM

no its good, everything works fine with out vpn

itsupport505•8/23/24, 12:13 PM

just strange thing that vpn was blocked, im usually on vpn on the go

rubenfOP•8/23/24, 12:13 PM

we have nothing special against it, but we do use cloudfront

itsupport505•8/23/24, 12:23 PM

commercial vpn, nordvpn, could be dirty nodes

rubenfOP•8/23/24, 3:32 PM

We will fix it

cdodev•8/24/24, 2:35 PM

So - I've run into a little problem, and I'm not sure if it's user error.

I have a duckdb script which was working fine, but I want to change it to be able to cache the database file locally. I thought the way to do that would be with a dedicated worker, but now the script isn't picking up the secrets correctly any more:

api_key=openai_config['api_key'],
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^

api_key=openai_config['api_key'],
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^

print(embeddings_open_ai)

print(embeddings_open_ai)

gives:

$res:u/ben/open_ai_embeddings

$res:u/ben/open_ai_embeddings

(before that would print out the object contents

Have I done something wrong, or am I missunderstanding the intent here?

rubenfOP•8/24/24, 2:52 PM

There might be a bug. If you can send me a clear reproduction, we will investigate on monday

metapontum•8/25/24, 7:32 AM

Would be nice if there was a channel for tossing interesting links / inspo / resources.

Saw this today, might be useful for brainstorming future app editor experience
https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1f0e2zs/i_made_my_drag_and_drop_website_builder_much_more/

From the webdev community on Reddit: I made my drag and drop websit...

Explore this post and more from the webdev community

rubenfOP•8/25/24, 8:23 AM

@metapontum I think general will work until we have too many of those

rubenfOP•8/25/24, 8:24 AM

and then we will create dedicated channel